While the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 is a marvelously crafted statement of faith, it is not nor can it ever be sufficient to foresee all of the theological and social problems that our agencies and institutions have to deal with. The practical application of that theology often requires thoughtful deliberation and prayerful guidance for matters not spelled out in the Baptist Faith and Message. Are we willing to have seminary professors, for instance, who advocate being slain in the Spirit? Will we appoint North American Missionaries who are crossdressers? Can the IMB put divorced people on the field, or someone who once had transgender surgery? None of those things is forbidden in the Baptist Faith and Message, but we have a trustee system that can grapple with these issues and make policy decisions. While you may think that a vote for this is a vote to support the same conservative values that brought us the Baptist Faith and Message in the first place, do not be misled. This is a blatant attempt to introduce practices that historically have been foreign to Southern Baptists but are now slipping in the back door. If the proponents of this measure want Southern Baptists to approve of speaking in tongues, then be honest enough to bring that up. Don't try to sneak it in simply because it isn't forbidden in the Baptist Faith and Message. The president earlier ruled a motion out of order because it usurped the authority granted to our trustee boards and this is a blatant attempt to do it another way. If we pass this we will run the risk of micromanaging our agencies and annually amending the Baptist Faith and Message in order to keep up with the latest faddish controversy.
For all of Wade Burleson's insistence that Southern Baptists weren't confused about this, I must accuse my brother of being disingenuous about that. I don't mind the gloating about the vote, but just be honest and say that the confusion worked in favor of the motion's proponents. To my dying day I will believe that if an articulate and passionate antagonist to the motion had ever gotten to speak, the motion would have gone down. I had at least 50 people ask me how they "should have" voted, only to gasp in horror when I or someone around me explained our perspective. "I didn't understand that," was the frequent reply.
The convention, however, is the only one who gets to interpret what the convention meant. If any agency or institution seems to go beyond this, then the convention is free to determine if the trustees were not "guided" by the BF&M. I don't know about anyone else, but I will feel guided by the BF&M in every vote I cast as a trustee of the IMB. I will feel guided by the BF&M when I vote on a budget. I will feel its guidance and instruction when I cast my ballot on matters of policy. I will be true to the spirit of the BF&M when I help make personnel decisions. In fact, I think the board has done that all along.
The original wording of the Executive Committee statement was much stronger. At least this one was finally crafted with input by the seminary presidents to reflect language they could all agree with and support. Dr. Mohler's response to questions during his report indicates precisely how they can support it--by being guided by the Baptist Faith and Message to do what Southern Baptists have commissioned them to do.
I do not have either the time or the will to respond thouroughly to Wade Burleson's original rant or his later, more thoughtful reflection. I will, however, make a couple of points. First, I hope Wade has contacted Dr. Mohler and apologized for the way he originally characterized his report. Disagreeing with Dr. Mohler's interpretation is fine. He can handle that and as a seminary president he should be willing to accept criticism. To characterize it the way Wade originally did, though, was offensive and wrong. Changing it isn't enough. An apology is in order.
Second, Wade's inconsistency in fleshing out exactly how this should be applied would be comical if it weren't indicative of precisely the kind of confusion so general and broad a statement makes. First Wade says this:
Any policy or guideline at an agency, that is based upon a doctrinal interpretation that EXCEEDS the Baptist Faith and Message, is not in line with the convention's vote to adopt the Executive Committee's statement on the BFM.
Then he apparently excuses seminaries:
There are some agencies, like seminaries, that need tighter, narrower, and more defined confessions - like the Abstract of Principles.
Then he reverses himself:
. . .but if Southwestern Seminary were to desire to 'tighten' her institutional confession, the proposed doctrinal confession would need to be voted upon by the convention as a whole.
Then he restricts the mission boards because they are "convention wide (sic)." That is an interesting concept. I suppose that means because there are six seminaries they aren't convention-wide. Here is the statement:
If trustees of any agency, particularly convention wide agencies like the International Mission Board or the North American Mission Board, were to refuse to abide by the convention's wishes of not demanding conformity on doctrinal interpretations not found in the BFM, then those trustees should be answerable to the convention.
Then he gives the exceptions--not exceptions spelled out in the statement the convention approved, though. Exceptions that are approved in Wade's World:
This does not mean there cannot be guidelines or policies that are implemented for moral, ethical or pragmatic reasons (weight, homosexuality, adultery, etc . . .), but new 'doctrinal' guidelines that exceed the BFM 2000 cannot be implemented unless there is a convention-wide consensus.
Aside from the obvious fact that homosexuality and marital fidelity are actually covered in the BF&M, this is an interesting view because it seeks to define what is doctrinal (whatever those strange quotes around the word mean) and what is something else. The something else is apparently okay to add, but anything doctrinal that is not forbidden in the BF&M is apparently off limits to our trustees.
Then, to totally confuse the situation, he proceeds to admit that he has some disagreements with the BF&M (I think Dale Moody used to say the same thing when he taught at Southern). He characterizes them as "minor," to be sure, though I don't recall the BF&M actually making that distinction. One man's minor is another man's major, but we can always consult the blogs for the line between them I suppose. Isn't this the new repository of truth?
I just don't get it. I really don't. How did this clarify anything?
Forget the confusion that existed before the vote; it's the confusion after that gets me. One of its major proponents can't cogently answer: 1) why the trustees can't enforce anything NOT in the BF&M but he can serve as a trustee when he disagrees with something that IS. 2) How we can categorize policy between doctrinal and practical, behavioral and theological (which one is "slain in the Spirit" practice? I think it depends on whether or not a fat missionary is doing it!).
By the way, since the Baptist Faith and Message 2000 defines baptism and then says that it is prerequisite to the Lord's Supper, it absolutely precludes open communion. Is that major or minor? Shouldn't trustees be guided by that and begin to enforce it?
There. That should be sufficient.

17 comments:
Well said Hershael,
The Baptist Faith and Message begins with a clear statement regarding the Scripture; the Bible itself.
Article 1 includes this statement:” It (the Bible) reveals the principles by which God judges us, and therefore is, and will remain to the end of the world, the true center of Christian union, and the supreme standard by which all human conduct, creeds, and religious opinions should be tried.”
Therefore, the B.F. &M. emphasizes that the Scripture is applicable to “all human conduct, creeds, and religious opinions”. So I ask, what can mankind do that does not fall under the application of Article 1? I’m trying to come up with any possible issue that doesn’t fall into the category of “human conduct” and/or “religious opinion”. I am failing. Someone help me?
The B.F. & M. is sufficient because Article 1 is so wonderfully clear.
Dr. York,
I only wish you had gotten to the mike. I agree that had someone been able to articluate those points with the passion you just did, the vote would have likely been different.
It will be interesting to see where this goes in terms of actual implementation in the months ahead. I suspect we haven't heard the last of it from the convention level. I would further expect Dr. Page and/or Dr. Chapman to make some sort of statement in the days ahead to speak to the confusion.
I notice that Wade hasn't posted today - but I feel certain he will soon. It amazes me how much "traffic" some of these blogs get. Wade had 95 comments to his post yesterday. I got through a handful, and gave up.
Dr. York,
It was a pleasure to meet you at the convention.
Would it be wrong to state that the use of the word "sufficient" in this statement seems to be making the motion so vague? While the BF&M is sufficient for trustees to consult, it is not the "sufficient" ends in their consultation.
If we interpret the motion the way the originator of the motion intended--"that it was his intention for the convention to vote NOT to go beyond BFM"--then we have denied the Sufficiency of Scripture and placed moved our trust from the infallible Word of God and placed it in the fallible word of man. Am I missing something?
Blessings,
Tim
Dr. York,
Thank you for clarifying this vote. I was wondering about this when I read about it. I have personally lost a lot of respect for Wade in recent days.
Since this vote has passed, do you think that the next step is to have a more comprehensive BF&M 2008? It seems that, if we claim that the BF&M is suffucient (I thought only Scripture was sufficient), we need a more comprehensive confession of faith. What are your thoughts on that?
Tell Adam Bishop I said hi. We miss him down here in AL.
Jonathan Oue
Hershael,
A very good analysis. I've tried to make similar observations in my various comments in the threads here and here, but I can't manage to get much substantive interaction out of these guys. It's just an incoherent platform on which to engineer a revolution.
Dr. York,
I posted a comment earlier. I do not moderate comments as you do, so I'm not sure the reason the comment I gave you has not been posted, but I am assuming it got lost in cyberspace. If for some reason you did receive it and have not yet decided to post it, please use this one in its place.
First, you are absolutely correct about the apology to Dr. Mohler. It was written and sent yesterday. I should not have said what I did, not because it was not an honest feeling I had about what was being done in dismissing the convention's adoption of the BFM Statement, but rather, there could have been a more appropriate phrase used. You don't tell grandma you don't like her pie, and sometimes you should temper the words you use that describe the raw emotion you feel. It's not the first mistake I've made on the poor choice of words and it will not be my last.
Second, I am amazed you do not believe what the Executive Director of the Southern Baptist Convention, Dr. Morris Chapman, said in his statement to the convention as he gave the report that contained the statement on the BFM (from the transcript):
"(1) Any practice instituted by an entity in the Southern Baptist Convention that has the force of doctrine should be in accord with the Baptist Faith and Message and not exceed its boundaries unless and until it has been approved by the Southern Baptist Convention and secondly,
(2) If an entity of the Southern Baptist Convention adopts a confession of faith separate and distinct from the Baptist Faith and Message and it includes a doctrine unsupported by our confessional statement, the entity should request approval from the Convention prior to including the doctrine in its confession."
Third, my disagreement with the BFM 2000 on 'closed communion' has been made known in writing, publicly, from the beginning of my service. I do not believe 'closed communion' is an essential of Baptist identity or the Christian faith. My church practices 'modified open communion' and invites every believer in Christ who has made public his faith through baptism, to the table of our Lord.
I am happy to allow the convention to speak regarding their desires on this matter. I believe they will say cooperation in missions and evangelism ministry in the SBC is not conditioned upon conformity to the 'closed communion' interpretation. If you think they will not say this, then bring this issue before the convention as we did the establishment of doctrinal policies and guidelines before the entire convention.
What's odd is that you ignore the decision of the convention -- I'm saying, on the record, that I will abide by the convention's decision and if they say we are not Southern Baptist because we reject closed communion as an essential of either Christian or Baptist identity -- then I and my church will leave.
I guarantee you, I will not take your word, a board's word or a Seminary President's definition of 'true Southern Baptist identity.'
I will accept the convention's desires on this matter.
If you respond, 'But the convention said that 'closed communion' was an essential!" . . . I will answer, "No sir, I do not believe the convention ever saw the Confession as a CREED, where, if a Southern Baptist disagreed with some of the minor doctrines found within (like closed communion), he or she should be excluded from SBC service.
I, however, am willing for that question to be settled by the convention -- and I will abide by what they say.
Just as I said the convention would not like doctrinal guidelines or policies established by the board of trustees at the IMB that EXCEEDED the BFM 2000 --- and I was right.
Yet, you seem to wish, like others, to ignore the clear wishes of the convention.
I wish you the best in your ministry and look forward to meeting you and continuing our dialogue.
In His Grace,
Wade
Dr. York,
Thank you for this post. You have summarized what took place correctly and did so with a Christian spirit.
I am rather shocked by this attempt at trickery by some regarding this motion.
I pray that the confusion this motion creates will be settled in the future.
Wonderful breakdown of the orchestrated confusion of a few! Keep on with this. So many were asking me the same thing. You have hit this one out of the park!
Tim Guthrie
The text of the statement, in and of itself, says nothing like the "implications" of it presented by Burleson and Chapman. If they wish for the SBC to adopt those sentiments, they need to make a motion that says so plainly. Doing so isn't difficult; just risky.
Dr. York,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, I only wish that you and/or Dr. Mohler could have spoken to the motion. God bless!!!
In Christ,
JLG
Wade Burleson said "My church practices 'modified open communion' and invites every believer in Christ who has made public his faith through baptism, to the table of our Lord."
If only he had added, after the words "through baptism," the words "by immersion after and not for salvation," he would be right in the middle of the mainstream of Southern Baptist life, and in full agreement with the Baptist Faith and Message on this point.
As it stands, he is not.
Thank you, Dr. York, for your outstanding analysis. I enjoyed visiting with you in San Antonio.
Dr. York,
I would not be surprised if yourself and Dr. Mohler were mortified at the discussion of this motion.
I took a look at Cole's blog.. can I say how disgusted I am!
"Late Monday afternoon, Wade Burleson and I discussed the reality that the motion could suffer defeat if either of us made or spoke to the motion. Wade approached Rick Garner, whom we had both come to know, and Rick agreed to make the motion. On Monday evening, Wade and I hosted over 40 people in our suite for a time of briefing about the motion. I explained the parliamentary rule, fielded questions, and highlighted the times in the convention schedule when these messengers would need to be prepared at a microphone."
"When the camera switched to a microphone to speak against, I saw Art Rogers standing there. He said, politely, “No, Mr. President. I am speaking for the motion.”
"Standing behind Art, and barely visible except for his pompadour of strangely red hair plugs, was Richard Land. Next to him was Hershael York. With these men warming up in the bullpen, I knew we had to have a vote fast. The question was called, and after a near 2/3 majority vote to end debate, Frank Page allowed the messengers to continue. "
"At one point, the microphone in front of us was empty. Wade ran up and pushed the “for” button. When the number was called, Wade pointed to Dwight and said, “you’re up.” Without fair warning and completely extemporaneous, Dwight moved quickly to the microphone and spoke – the only black pastor to do so from the convention floor this year."
"Knowing that Richard Land or Hershael York was next up, I went to a switchbox and pushed “Point of Order.” My question was going to be about whether or not the time had expired, and then I was going to move the question again.
Before I had the chance, Frank Page informed the messengers that the time for debate had expired and asked for a 2/3 vote to extend debate."
Cole and his 40 coalitioners did all that they could to deprive the SBC of a fair hearing on this matter.
"Truth, however, makes an unwelcome ally when power is the prize."
I thought that the goal of a church meeting or a convention meeting was to discover the mind of Christ through the membership.
He and his coalition by predetermined and well rehearsed strategy seems to have deliberately brought political ambition and expedience into play with the expressed intention of deceiving the convention, and so thwart any attempt to discover the mind of Christ through the membership of the convention.
No matter what the justifications, the facts are that deliberately and purposely tieing up microphones to gag opposing speakers is not honest.
Steve
To a young baptist seminary graduate guy who is called to missions and whose wife abandoned their marriage and remarried just months later, your words about "putting divorced people on the field" are devastating and persuade me to give up on any dream of God's call on my life becoming reality.
Anonymous:
Don't shoot the messenger. First of all, that policy is already in place at the IMB and has been for as long as I know. Secondly, though I sympathize deeply with your situation, surely you agree that divorce is a legitimate subject for a mission board to contemplate, even though it is not necessarily dealt with in the BF&M. That is all I was saying.
The only other piece of advice I can give you is that the success of your ministry will depend on the strength of your calling. I don't mean to be trite or to treat your pain and situation lightly, but I have had this same conversation with several seminary students through the years and have seen them grow angry and hurt at me or at others for having an opinion about it. I am going to say to you what I have said to them. I don't wish to offend you or hurt you or provoke you. I am saying to you what I would say to my own sons in the same situation.
If my opinion or anyone else's opinion can make you forsake your calling, then perhaps you should question your calling. Furthermore, the decision of whether or not your situation disqualifies you as a missionary merely as an IMB missionary are two totally different decisions. As I write this I am serving on the field in Brazil with one of the greatest missionaries I know who, for reasons I will not divulge, could never be an IMB missionary. He doesn't waste one moment worrying about that. He is too busy pastoring a great Brazilian congregation and planting several churches per year. Your situation can be used of God to make you take a different route to discern and do His will. Please don't think that not serving with the IMB is the same as not serving. Like any ecclesiastical or denominational body, the IMB has to determine how to best perform its calling while representing its supporting constituents. You may disagree with the board's conclusions, but surely you realize that they can't merely take a pass on such matters.
I pray that the Lord will make His will for you very clear and that you will fulfill that calling with joy.
Dear Professor,
Thanks for sharing your understanding of the matter.
The statement that was passed may actually be unconstitutional in reference to the IMB, due to Article IX which loosely governs qualifications of missionary candidates, only one aspect of which is doctrinal, the other three of which are practical and left to the entity to determine litmus tests, so to speak, concerning evidence of zeal for the kingdom, evidence of piety, evidence of talents for missionary service. The statement, as it was passed, says that the BFM2000 is sufficient for all policies and guidelines. How utterly absurd! The constitution must override any statement until it is ammended two years in a row by a 2/3 margin.
Dr. York,
Would you be opposed to pulling Dr. Chapman's statement about approving the entity extra-BFM policies out in Indianapolis and making that a motion.
It seems to me that this referral to the convention would be a less contentious process if a voluntary effort was made by the trustees to be sure they were following the will of the Convention.
On the other hand, I do see how "busing in the supporters" could erupt in some of the most recent, contentious practices...but I think that having to be called on the carpet by that same "mob" would be more divisive and distressing.
I would very much appreciate your thoughts on this matter.
I am not exactly sure what you mean, but if I read you correctly (and I may not) my response is that the trustees of the agencies are doing what the trustees of the agencies have always done. They have ALWAYS gone beyond the BF&M in certain ways. For instance, when I was hired at Southern I was asked my views on racism, on women in the pastorate, and, yes, on tongues. None of those things were in the BF&M 1963, but each of them was important. Now some of those are covered in the 2000 statement, but there will always be matters of faith and practice which have biblical parameters but not necessarily directly contrary to the BF&M.
So here is the sum of the matter. If the convention wants the trustees of our boards to change what they have always done, then there needs to be a motion FORBIDDING them to act on certain matters. Stop being vague for the sake of interpretation. I say to the proponents of tongues or any particular issue, "Get some testosterone and make a motion affirming tongues and instructing trustees they cannot establish a policy against it." If anyone thinks that is what the convention was doing, then they can easily prove it.
This is a very ineloquent response, but to summarize, I would be in favor of a motion from someone to restrict trustees because I think it would fail, but I would not be in favor of a motion to allow trustees to continue doing what they have in fact always done. The burden lies on the party that wants to force a change.
Clear as mud?
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